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Monday Calls; 2011 Conferences
Monday – 03/28/2011
Polarity - or, the ‘Positive’ and the ‘Negative’
Introductory Notes by Wynn Free
Audio Link -
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15928487/mon_bbscall_2011-03-28.mp3
Channeled and Edited by Terry Brown
Transcribed by Connie O'Brien
Wynn: This is March 28th, 2011 Wynn Free. This is our Monday
night conference simulcast which is the simulcast between a
conference call and an internet broadcast. We’ve just kept our
format because we started as a conference call and actually the
conference line helps hold the energy for the call. This is a
rather unusual call because it explores the nature of
interdimensional communication, but not from an intellectual
source but with actual interdimensional sources that are
communicating on the call. Terry happens to be one of those
special people who is able to be a conduit for those messages.
One of the things about our particular sources – just because
it’s interdimensional doesn’t mean that all people who do
channeling are doing the same thing. Just as if you are talking
to people who are members of the human race, you’d have as much
variations as you could imagine. In our case, we’re not
talking to discarnate entities, we’re not talking to individual
spirit forms, we’re talking to – how they describe themselves
as ‘group souls’. If the way they explain it is true, there
are a number of them working together, formulating the words that
come through Terry. There is an unusual aspect to the group
souls that we are communicating with and that is, aside from
getting information about how things work at a cosmic level,
we’re also able, many of us, to feel their energies. They
explain that they have the ability to project from where they are
the love light energy into this realm. Humans are receivers of
that energy. In fact, they’re a very important part of the
equation.
What happens during the call is that there is a lot of
information – some of it that I bring through and some of it
that happens in our conversations. There’s also this energy
that’s on this call. Some of you can already feel it. The
people that have been on the call regularly have learned to tune
their antennas. As soon as they come into the call there is a
sensation, a feeling – I stop talking for a moment and you take
a look at the vibrations you’re feeling, you might notice the
energy.
Every Monday we explore a topic, and the topic today is
‘Positive and Negative’ – we live on a planet that has
positive and negative. For many, it seems unfair that “Why are
there so many obstacles? Why is there so much suffering? Why do
people have hardships? If there’s a God, how did such a
difficult realm get established and why?” We’re going to be
exploring that tonight. Before I do I’m going to have Gjis
just greet some of the people on the conference line so they can
say hello and say their name and help hold the energy for the
call.
Gjis: Thank you everybody thank you for joining us – Gina,
Jackie, Dee, Andrea and Jim and some more people have joined. If
you want to do so, please say your name and city.
Mac: This is Mac Bugulu, Des Moines.
Gjis: Good evening Mac welcome to the call.
Mac: Good evening.
Jean: Jean, South Dakota.
Gjis: Hello Jeanne, how are you doing?
Zoe: Zoë Sacramento.
Gjis: Good evening Zoë, welcome to the call.
Zoe: Hi Gjis.
Suzanne: Suzanne in Columbus Ohio.
Gjis: Hello Suzanne.
Suzanne: Hi Gjis.
Cindy: Cindy in Peoria Arizona.
Gjis: Welcome to the call.
Loretta: Loretta in Salt Lake City, Utah.
Gjis: Welcome.
Lisa: Hi Lisa from San Francisco.
Gjis: Hello Lisa.
Michael: Hi Michael in San Diego.
Gjis: Hello Michael. Welcome to the call Michael.
Michael: That’s Sam when he says something.
Wynn: Sam?
Michael: Yeah, the cat.
Wynn: Oh hi Sam.
Michael: He was just meowing and I give him the phone and he
shuts up.
Wynn: We have to introduce Sam and Nefertiti.
Michael: I mean, he walks on my keyboard he wants to send emails
to his friends, probably to Nefertiti.
Gina: Nefertiti has a new competition, a new friend.
Michael: A new admirer; she has a new secret admirer. It’s
the Sam Cat.
Wynn: Just curious: Does anyone have any questions on the topic
that we’ve addressed for tonight?
Michael: Yes, actually.
Wynn: What’s your question Michael?
Michael: We talk about duality and we talk about positive and
negative and we’re seeing that things are moving closer
together. Sometimes I have a problem talking about it being
either positive or negative because it’s creating a polarity
and I think what’s happening as we move towards oneness, those
polarities are dissolving. There’s euphemisms, then there’s
what you really mean. It seems that rather than just the
polarity of positive and negative – what was it called? In the
Kabbalah there’s seven Hermetic Laws and one of them is that
everything basically works kind of like a continuum. There’s
light and there’s dark; there’s light and there’s absence
of light. If you have two rooms with a door between them and
there’s light on in one room if you open the door that room
doesn’t become dark; the other room becomes light. I’m
looking for – its one thing I like to do – is to what shows
itself in the Universe again and again. I think that when we
talk about the dark forces we kind of make them an enemy and if
we make them an enemy we feed them.
Wynn: I think so, I think that’s true.
Michael: One thing that I’ve come to realize is that they are
trying to get back to be God, too. Maybe not the right way or
maybe there is the right way, I don’t know. The way they’re
doing it doesn’t look good to me that’s for sure and probably
not to anyone else on this line. What it comes down to is when
we’re looking at light and dark, I think we have to embrace the
darkness. You have to embrace the darkness in your own self if
you want to gain more light. If you want to be more conscious
you have to explore your own dark side. There’s God revealed
and then there’s God hidden and again there’s more duality.
I’m curious just how it all fits and works together and if we
can use that understanding to release opposition and let the
light in.
Wynn: Michael I think that is very insightful. Now I can’t
tell that story about the dark room and the light room. You
upstaged me.
Michael: Sure you can.
Wynn: No, you already said it. Anyone else have a comment on
this particular topic?
Zoe: Thank you for that very much I enjoyed that a lot too.
This is Zoe. I wonder about asking them to talk about the
function of the dark.
Wynn: The function of the dark – okay. Anyone else?
Gjis: I want to ask regarding the nature of duality in the near
future will there be significant differences between 2012 or 2017
– will there be significant changes for us?
Wynn: Terry, are you writing all this down?
Terry: I didn’t hear the last thing that Gjis said; he said
“nature of duality in the near future” and then he faded out.
Wynn: In other words: what’s the significance of 2012 and what
might shift, I think that’s what he means.
Gjis: Will there be a noticeable difference with duality in the
near future?
Wynn: Anyone else have something?
Gina: Yes, Wynn. Maybe the sources can comment on: certain days
are more difficult than others for us, especially those who are
tuned in to what’s happening and the energies going on. If
they can just give us some insight into how to deal with the
tough days or the challenging days – some of us may feel
depressed or we may feel just lost in sort of a way. Like, we
just put our hands up and we want this all to be over with
already kind of feelings. If that’s kind of making sense. If
they can just address that.
Wynn: Like Judy Garland in that version of somewhere over the
rainbow, right?
Gina: Exactly. Maybe tips on how to deal with those days that
are just more stormy than others or more tough or more
challenging than others?
Michael: Are you guys drinking a lot? I have a sense of humor
too.
Zoe: This is Zoë again – the way they, whether those days
function even though they are difficult in a positive way for us
and what way would that be?
Wynn: I want to make my comment here on that. My key to this is
acceptance – that when you’re going through one of those days
to say to yourself “Okay this is one of those days” and just
keep going. Say “I’m open for it to lift as soon as it
does” - stop dwelling on it; getting obsessive with it.
That’s my experience. Sometimes calling somebody up that is a
light action that would love to hear from you and just chatting
with them. On those days it’s really hard to take the step
sometimes to talk to somebody because usually, I speak from my
own experience, it’s like “Oh my god I hope no one sees me
today,” because you feel shadowed or obscured and you’re not
going to be able to put out energy. So it’s a trick to move
through it gently. Usually it shifts gradually.
Thank you all for bringing those things up. Anyone else have
something they want to say?
Jim: On those kinds of days, you just have to keep in mind that
it’s 10% event and 90% reaction.
Wynn: Who was that sharing?
Jim: That’s Jim from Tomball, Texas.
Wynn: 10% event and 90% reaction.
Jim: Exactly.
Wynn: I had a teacher years ago that said ”With our lives,
there’s 10% that we’re conscious of and 90% that we’re not
that goes on in other levels.” That’s interesting – okay
thank you. Anyone else have something they want to say?
Dee: Wynn, this is Dee from Missouri – my question is: when
it’s us going through a hard day as ourselves looking over it
or just saying let’s get through it, that’s not a real big
task. I mean it can be, but what about when you have somebody
around you that is going through a miserable, miserable day in
their mind and you tell them you love them, you give them
everything you can to lift them up and they don’t lift up –
can you address that, how we could maybe lift them up?
Michael: You tickle them!
Dee: It doesn’t work, I’m sorry.
Wynn: If you can, one of the things just my comment, is you
can’t always lift somebody up, okay. Sometimes you can and
sometimes you can’t because they’re a whole other universe.
One of the tricks is not to get caught up in what they’re going
through and being able to hold the space inside yourself for
positivity regardless. Be there for them. Because once you get
pulled into feeling sorry for them or feeling like it’s your
responsibility, I think that’s a losing proposition because it
would be like: you can’t save someone who is drowning if you
jump into the water and they pull you down in. You have to stay
on the shore and keep holding the hand from the shoreline and not
from drowning with them. We’re amassing all these questions,
so we’ll see what our sources say. Anyone else have something?
Gijs: May I quickly add something to it? I’ve had great
experience with just having the intention being there near
somebody and sending love and light just silently where a
situation like a miracle changes.
Wynn: I know it’s a trick because I’ve been around people
– I can say this, but I’ve been around people - especially
when your emotions are involved - that sometimes it seemed like
the negative was using the circumstance to keep me disabled.
It’s so tricky because I couldn’t get out of it even though I
know all this stuff I got stuck and disabled. It’s not easy
just to know what to do. Anyone else have something?
Michael: I think we’ve really all been talking about the same
thing in terms of how do you lift your vibrations? What happens?
You get stuck. How do you lift? How do you get out of it? Am I
muted?
Wynn: Here, I’m muted. I’m sorry. I heard you Michael, I
was muted.
Michael: I wish everybody had a mute button you know sometimes
that would come in pretty darn handy.
Wynn: It would be nice to go in the world and be able to mute
the world.
Michael: That’d be fun.
Wynn: Go do your errands and say ‘mute.’
Michael: An undo button that would be great.
Wynn: Right. There we go. Okay, I’m going to mute everybody.
Terry, you’re still there right?
Terry: Yeah, I’m still here.
Wynn: Alright. One of the amazing things that I have learned
over the course of the last years as a result of all our
conversations, interdimensional conversations. It took me quite
a bit of time to really incorporate that and that was that
everyone – this idea that everyone is one, it’s easy to say
– just imagine that this huge oneness of energy keeps showing
up in it’s separate forms as you and me. Here we are in this
lifetime, right now, and all of us have had many other lifetimes
which we can’t remember. Some of us may have even been part of
the creation of this realm, and jumped into it and here we are.
All those aspects of our past are on some level still present,
but our memories are blank – except that when you hear it,
there’s a cellular resonance.
When you read history and you had a lifetime in a certain place,
there’s something that clicks. Recently we did some readings
for some people and they happened to go into their past life in
Atlantis or their last past life in Lemuria. When we do those
readings I’m always a little bit, it’s out of my control. I
hope the information resonates, but I can’t tell. I thank the
people that had the readings when they emailed me because it made
a big difference to both me and Terry, because there’s a huge
responsibility in bringing this stuff forth and I don’t want to
make a mistake and I don’t want to do anything that could
possibly be harmful. I don’t want to have a negative source
come through, which I don’t believe has happened - but I know
it’s possible. In every situation I kind of have to be open,
and so do you. Every time there’s channeling to never just let
your guard down.
I think the thing that constantly validates our sources is the
loving energy we start to have with each other because in spite
of the fact that we do these calls three times a week and
you’re getting inundated with messages, from my point of view
there is nothing to follow. You may choose to give up your power
but there is nothing inherent in what we’re doing that requires
that. This is an adventure, and it’s an unusual adventure,
because we’re all moving forward with this unique contact with
other dimensions - or what seems to be. We’re all getting
privy to understandings that are fairly rare in this realm. How
did the positive negative, my quick take on this is that – we
can go back now, because if we’re talking to the Elohim and
they created this realm I can make a quick review on how this
works from the way they’ve explained it.
Initially the physical world was created – of course they’re
still listening so please correct me if I say anything that you
find out of resonance, or if I’ve got something wrong. The
physical world was created, not with an understanding of what
would happen. It was created as an experiment of – if you can
imagine – a bunch of spirits that are just having a good time
and they can resonate and communicate with each other and somehow
or another they can project holograms and be aware of each other,
but there was no persistence. The idea was “Well, if we could
create persistence wouldn’t that be fun?” Persistence was
the beginning of the physical realm. But, there wasn’t a great
understanding completely of how it would unfold and as it
unfolded – because there was persistence, there was
possessions. Because there were possessions there was hierarchy,
because either I own it or you own it. Theoretically you could
have a society where there was no ownership. I remember there
were times when I watched hippies go into that and say “Well
everything is everyone’s” – communes – where people would
come in and they’d say “Just give us all your possessions and
you can live on our farm.” I’m not going to say that’s
right or wrong, but usually when somebody sets that up in this
realm it gets branded as a cult. I think the reason is because
once you give all your possessions up you have no options. If
doesn’t work for you you’re stuck.
It’s a trick, it’s not easy because in this realm we all need
the physical things to survive and to feel free and physical
things allow us to make decisions, to travel, to go out and have
dinner, to go see a concert – to do things which are uplifting.
Being that’s true, the individual interprets it as well these
things make me feel free then more makes me feel freerer. Now,
not only am I going to worry about my freedom, but how about my
children’s freedom and my grandchildren’s freedom? There’s
a desire to create huge amounts of money that suddenly is going
to create a lot of freedom for people in the future that you’re
connected to.
When you set up the idea of reincarnation, I’m pretty sure this
is true. I haven’t asked it specifically, but I’m pretty
sure it’s true – that is: the act of creating a family and
children and grandchildren creates the opportunity for you to
reincarnate in that same family down the road. You’re
vibrationally connected, so someone knows on a subconscious
cellular level that’s true. They may not know it or think
about it consciously, but this is one of the drives to create
families and children. Because when you create a happy family,
you create an opportunity to incarnate in the future.
I remember we did a reading for someone where they talked about
tribal love versus unconditional love. Tribal love is just what
it sounds like, it’s like you’re connected to your family,
you’re tightly round in with your group. It can extend
outside your family, it can connect to your tribe, your religion,
your church you go to, the particular community you live in. The
thing about it is, you get something back from those involvements
- it’s not unconditional. It can be beautiful and it can be
loving, but it’s not unconditional because you are tying your
energy field into that group.
Gjis: Excuse me, Wynn, the guys in the sky are knocking on the
door.
Wynn: The guys in the sky?
Gjis: Yes.
Wynn: You mean you want them to talk?
Gjis: Yes.
Wynn: Wait a second. Terry? Terry, are you there?
Terry: I’m here. … they’re knocking on the door?
Wynn: Gjis is trying to push us to channel. It’s 6:31, we
have about 23 minutes. I’m just going to take another two or
three minutes because I want to make sure that those people
listening understand how the negative got founded.
If you can follow my logic here, this tribal thing meant we have
to have more compared to that other tribe that doesn’t have it.
It’s like whether it’s your tribe has more than theirs and
then we have to go get their land and we have to grow food and
they don’t have it. This has been the history of humankind.
Then someone breaks out of it and starts to set an example of
unconditional love. Unconditional love means love that goes out
but doesn’t need anything in return. It may get it, but it
doesn’t need it, it’s not requiring it, it’s just
free-flow. Each of you can look at yourself and say how much of
me is involved in tribal love, and how much of me is involved in
unconditional love? It doesn’t mean the two are mutually
exclusive. You can have a wonderful family and still have
unconditional love, because your family is a subset of you,
it’s not where your consciousness is totally engrossed.
I’m going to call in the light – Terry are you ready?
Terry: Okay.
Wynn: Okay? Alright. You don’t sound too anxious.
Terry: There are a lot of questions here.
Wynn: I did want to announce this experiment, but I’ll do it
after the channeling, okay? (There is) something that I want to
try this Saturday.
Father Mother God we ask for the presence of the light to
surround and protect each person here, and any negativity be
taken to the higher realms of light and transmuted for the
highest good of all concerned. We see ourselves in the flow of
energy radiating from the center of the galaxy from the center of
the universe through the planets through the outer energy fields
of earth, through our bodies and grounded into the earth. Right
now we invoke a group consciousness while maintaining the
sovereign integrity of our souls. We invite those sources that
are positive, service to others, operating in the Law of One to
join with us as we create a protected space that only the
positive has access to. Anything not of that nature must leave
now. We await our sources to identify themselves and deal with
our topic in any way they see fit.
Ra’An: We greet you in the love light of the One Infinite
Creator. This is the 28th of March 2011 on planet earth. We
bring through the connection with planet earth, connecting it to
the higher vibrations of love - unconditional love. It is what
replenishes and nourishes the soul. Sometimes when an individual
is in the third dimension, they do not have access to this
unconditional love and flows from the earth realm move through
their life and they then can copy these unpleasant experiences
and experience negativity. The whole earth game is a plan
wherein an individual can learn to deal with lack and deal with
plenty and deal with the different emotions of individuals, and
their depression or their cheerfulness or their greediness.
An individual can learn to establish their own center and keep
their own connection with the love light and keep bringing the
love light through, bring it in - in prayer, in wishes and hopes
and intentions – to individuals who are going through difficult
times. There are different levels of frustration wherein one
might experience different emotions and for instance, losing
their grounding. Having a grounding of shelter and food and
harmony can buoy one up. In losing that harmony, they can then
flounder and not know what to attach themselves to, so it is a
lesson in attaching one to the love light, to the grounding of
the love for one’s fellow man to the love from the higher
sources which is willing and able and ready to flood in upon one
when they seek it and sometimes in the losing of one’s economic
situation or one’s shelter or one’s food supply, it causes
individuals to group together and to re-realize what working
together in harmony with each other means in finding the
fulfillment.
Fulfillment is something that an individual is really working
towards, not towards having a lot of money or a lot of
possessions; what will bring them connection is fulfillment and
connecting with spirit and connecting with others in a spiritual
way. There are many emotions one can experience. They can go
from being cheerful to being frustrated to being angry to giving
up more to being sad, to feeling apathy in that they can’t do
anything. They can go into negativity wherein they may wish to
simply run off and hide and to not communicate at all. These are
all areas one can move into.
You mentioned light and dark – light is the presence of an
energy, a connection, a spiritual connection. Dark is the
movement into separation, into aloneness, into no connection.
Dark is not bad, it is simply another side of the coin where one
is not connected. Spiritual disconnection does not bring
fulfillment, spiritual connection with others and the higher
forces and all that is, which one might call God, is a
fulfillment. One thing that has been mentioned is the absence of
light, the dark forces, the individuals who have moved into that
are trying to get back to the God too. They are trying to
short-cut the connection process and have reversed their response
and reaction into a striking out, an anger, a frustration, a
retaliation for not having been included, for not having been
connected. For having, perhaps by the parents or some other
individual, been suddenly disconnected and set adrift into their
own world - a disconnection. The people that have disconnected
that person many times have been disconnected previously
themselves and are striking back and have chosen the wrong target
as the real target would be whoever has disconnected them. We
hope these comments are helpful. Do you have further questions?
Wynn: I think one of the questions that everyone has, is when
people are feeling separated, when they are feeling dark, when
they are feeling all their angst, how should they deal –
especially when they’ve had moments when they have been
connected and not felt that. How can they best deal with that
aspect of what they’re going through?
Ra’An: One thing is they can observe, because sometimes there
has been an incident in their past, either in their past life or
when they were a child in this life which has made them feel
disconnected. Perhaps they had a parent who themselves were
disconnected and that parent had heaped disconnection and abuse
upon the child. Then, the child feels isolated and alone and has
not developed the social skills to connect that the individual
needs to connect. So, that individual can observe him/herself
and can also find areas within themselves where they can feel
some sort of connection and they can observe other individuals
being warm and friendly toward them and then observe their
reactions. If their reactions are to withdraw in fear that the
individual showing them warmth and affection may be like some
character in their past who has been withdrawn, or it has not
been true. But, individuals can seek, within their experience,
to let little cracks and openings in, to let the warmth and love
in.
They can go to the coffee shops and can observe other people
being friendly and chatting, and let it seep into some degree.
They can find music, something that they feel connected with.
The object is to begin to reconnect and to feel connected. Once
one feels connected then the isolation drops away and their need
for love can begin to be filled. They can observe themselves and
write down each day what good thing did they accomplish in the
day. They can observe when they are feeling connected and can
find circumstances – going to a dance, going on a chat room –
whatever the persons’ gradient may be to begin to connect. The
object is connection, to bring the love light in and to move the
darkness aside and fill the individual with warmth and love light
and know the individual is loved. They can come in on our calls
and connect with us and see the connections coming in.
If one is experiencing disconnection do not be disheartened with
yourself. It is an opportunity for big growth where you may have
the opportunity to observe as if you were in a lab to observe
yourself and see where the roots for the disconnection lie. What
were the thoughts that happened before the disconnection? Was it
something material that you were counting on that went away and
now you are simply at sea and can’t ground to it anymore? For
instance money is a big thing, where if there is no money then it
sets someone at sea and they are not sure how to ground. One may
find new ways of grounding with individuals who can give and take
love light and bring warmth into their life, even if it is
opening a crack and just bringing through a little bit. Because,
once somebody experiences the love light and that someone loves
them, if they can experience even a little bit it is a big gain
that can lead to bigger advances in the future.
Wynn: Thank you. I have this idea, I said I was going to
announce it and no one knows it but me. So I’ll announce it
and see what you guys think of this and if you don’t think
it’s a good idea, we’ll can it. I have an idea to do a
rally, a telephone rally, maybe this Saturday or Sunday which I
will announce, and invite everyone who has been touched by our
work on the rally and to have a little pep kind of thing for
fifteen or twenty minutes, and then take a break and have them
invite someone else to call in on the line who has never heard of
us before – without trying to explain it, just say, “Could
you get on this line listen to this guy?” But, we’ll do a
talk and introduce this work to new people. What do you think of
that idea?
Ra’An: We are open to that idea and it is worth a try.
Wynn: I know that many people that are touched by this work will
try to talk about it. It sounds like they’re crazy to their
friends. Maybe we’ll try it out this weekend and we’ll see
how it works.
It’s 6:51. One comment I’ll make as I know many people feel
separated because they think they need their soul mate, the need
someone to love. Without someone to love they feel disconnected.
How can a person who has this deal with this in the best way?
Ra’An: One way would be to see when they move through their
day how they are connecting with others. Everyone needs others,
and if they do not have others they feel disconnected because
that connection with others is something that only a connection
with others can fulfill. But, there is the connection with
one’s own self and one, in evaluating and feeling one’s own
worth, it’s something that they need to fulfill from their own
self. They can do things in that arena that can fill within
themselves the need for the love of self and the need for the
feeling of self worth, so that they do not get needy and ask
others to constantly fill up that gap. However, the connection
with others is something that is needed, and they can fulfill
that.
Now an individual, if they are looking for a soul mate and they
have their conviction of self worth, can then begin keeping with
their own goals and their own projects, finding people with
similar goals and projects that they can move into co-working on
those goals with others. Then, this is a common ground for
individuals to build a relationship, rather than making the
relationship be the whole and the only goal. Because if one
makes the relationship the whole and the only goal, then after
the connection of good joy of walking down the street with a
good-looking person or the joy of going out to eat….
Wynn: We have to stop, I’m sorry. It’s 6:55 and Gjis is
going to be mad because I was talking too long. I know Seth is
sitting there saying he’s got another show to put on. Excuse
for stopping that, and thank you so much for that great counsel
on this topic. Thank you all for being here. We’ll see some
of you on Wednesday.
Ra’An: We love you all.
Wynn: Thank you.
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mind of the channel. It is possible that a negative Source may
interfere. Apply your own discernment, take only what
resonates and discard the rest. An answer to a question is
meant for the person asking the question and you have the
privilege of listening in because sometimes you can gain
insights from the answer. However, even though the
circumstances may be similar, do not merely assume the answer
applies to you.. This is not meant to replace seeing your
doctor, dentist or any alternative practitioner. Some people
get healings here, so you can be open to it.