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Wednesday – 03/07/2012

Does God have a problem with homosexuality?

Host:  Wynn Free

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Channeled and Edited by Terry Brown

Transcribed by Connie O’Brien


Wynn:  Everyone, this is Wednesday, March 7th, 2012, and we’re going to ask questions of our sources that you guys submitted.  I want to thank all of you who are asking questions because the questions are getting better and better.  The quality of our Wednesday calls is getting better.  If you guys go listen to some of the archives you’ll hear week after week “Should I leave John?”  “Should I go with Joe?”   What were some of the old questions we used to get, Terry?


Terry:  “Should I marry Stan?”


Wynn:  Don’t mention names, okay?  “Should I marry Stan?” or, “Should I come to Arizona?”  There are people who have asked those questions recently and I can feel them thinking about it and they said “Uh oh, I shouldn’t have asked that question.”  Actually, it’s a legitimate question, because your choice of partners is very important, or can be very important because according to some of the stuff I’ve read and some of the experience, maybe this never occurred to you, but one of the fastest ways to open up your energies – this is going to be controversial – is through sex, because sex has the potential to by-pass every other circuit, every other hang-up in your body and get energies flowing and open up your DNA.


Even in one of the readings we did through Daphne where we talked about the hybrid humans, the humans that were the offshoots that were meant to be used as slaves; they were trying to keep their DNA compressed.  It was said, through sex they started opening up their chakras and that’s how they started to evolve, because it’s in the loving energies in the people’s hands that the chakras open up.  (Sound of typing.) Is somebody typing this all out?


Caller:  Me.  Yes.


Terry:  Who is that?  Who is typing it?


Michael:  Michael.  I’m sending it to my sweetheart so she can see what we’re talking about.  We figured this stuff out; we had some amazing things happen with energy while we 400 miles apart.


So I’d say I’d concur; I think everybody here on the call probably has had some experience similar to this.  I’m glad we’re going down this road.


Wynn:  The real problem is having the right person, the right partner because it’s never just sex.  It’s a total exchange of universes, and what happens so often and where it gets stuck is where (people are at different levels of evolvement.)


I’m not telling anybody what to do; these are hard issues to resolve.  I’m laying it out on how to consider it but I’m not giving advice to say, “Leave your partner” or “Be promiscuous,” either one.  I’m just saying how it seems to work because when you come together with somebody, you have a total movement into someone else’s universe and their’s into yours.


When you happen to be more evolved, that doesn’t put you on an ego trip to think you’re better than someone else.  It’s hard to find the right words to use; even people who are very expanded can have the most tragic and difficult times in this realm.  Being expanded doesn’t mean that you’re better than, that everything comes easy – it doesn’t mean that.  But, what it does mean is that other people are contracted, more contracted, than you – it’s hard to find someone who matches your level of expansion.  When you get into a relationship with someone who is contracted – remember, contracted doesn’t mean bad because everyone is at their own place.  We’ve all gone through many lifetimes and we’ve had lifetimes where we were contracted; so it’s not to judge or evaluate, it’s just to observe.  The person who is more expanded has to contract to match the energy of the person who is contracted because the person who is contracted doesn’t have the ability to expand to match the person who is expanded.


Then what happens is the person who is expanded is contracting and over a period of time they can easily forget themselves and lose themselves through the contraction.  Then, they reincarnate, I think, in that contracted energy and it becomes a loop that becomes hard to get out of.  To me, one way of dealing with that – you could say, “I’m leaving this person” – but, who is to say you’re going to find a person who is expansive.  If you want to find something expansive you have live an expansive life because you attract to you what you’re living.


One thing is that you can do expansive work and don’t look for that reflection in your relationship.  Have it compartmentalized so it is what it is, and be able to love that person in the way they need to be loved – that’s the key.  You can’t have any relationship if you’re not willing to love someone in the way they need to be loved.  If you can’t do that, then it’s not a good relationship at all – regardless of expansion and contraction.


That’s why you may have to contract to love them the way they need to be loved.  So you need to create another way to match your expanded matrix to keep it alive, otherwise it gets lost.  It can be in a spiritual group, it could be a church, it could be the meetings we do, it can be some kind of service – but, something so you don’t get stuck in that contraction.


If you try to explain this to the person you are with, they’re never going to understand it and they’re going to feel hurt, because it sounds to them like you’re being better than them just to preach it.  So you have operate on all of this, making your decisions unto yourself.


We have a couple of questions tonight about that kind of thing.  Are you ready, Terry?


Terry:  As ready as ever.  I just have to get myself out of the way.


Wynn:  Well, two of us that are never ready, but we show up.  I’m going to tell you guys something that I’ve learned is one of the greatest things – let me get this in words.  People wait until they’re ready and then they do something, then they never do it because they’re never ready.  Terry and I are never ready, but we do it – we show up.  There’s a great key there because people think that higher consciousness is going to descend on them and they’re going to float around with a thousand petals of a lotus because they’ve read that and they’re going to shift by some magical method.


I used to think this:  then you would walk around and you’d be enlightened and wherever you would go, God would be with you and everything would be hunky-dory.  It’s not been my experience that it works that way; what seems to work for me is that I show up.  I open my mouth; I don’t know what’s going to come out.  It took me a while to get the courage to do that, to say “Umm, it sounded good.”  People liked me; they didn’t throw tomatoes.


It took me a while to keep doing that and then to realize that the way it works is a group energy attracts the higher frequencies; everything from sex to being on the phone line, to however else to bring in really high group energy.  It’s always like amalgamating energies together that keep building upwards.  As you do this enough, you seem to be a lot happier and then everyone looks at you and they think you’re enlightened.  That’s just an illusion; you just learned how to dance on group energies and hold group energies together no matter where you are; whether it’s with your wife, your partner, your job, your city.  That’s how, in my opinion, you get to those places.  You walk into the space…


We have a really a good question from Michael today.  I have my idea that it works in the same way for that guy as I just described.  I don’t want to talk about it because I want to ask the question and I don’t want to bias Terry’s answer.  It’s like if I walked into the space and I say like Monday “Lou, come on in.  I’m going to do this.”  How do I know what’s going to happen with Lou?  God bless, I hope he stays alive and I hope his operation is successful and I believe it will be.  What did they say?  They said to Terry’s friend in a channeling “Just don’t believe the doctors; don’t do this.  Be above that – tell your body to heal.  When you tell your body to heal, we’ll be with you – alright?”  They’re not healing you; you’re healing you with their assistance.


That’s how I think it works – I may be wrong, but that’s how I think it works.  That’s how it works for me anyway.


Let’s do an invocation.


Gijs:  Wynn may I drop in there?  Since Lou had the open heart surgery today can we pay a little attention to him, like send him blessings?


Wynn:  Was today the day it was going to be?


Gijs:  I believe so.


Wynn:  I thought it was going to be Friday.  I’ll call him up and see.  We’ll do that; we’ll just send him blessings today anyway.  I think I’ll call him after the call.


(Wynn calls in the light)


Father, Mother, God, we ask for the presence of the light to surround and protect Terry, myself, and everyone on the line and any negativity be taken to the higher realms of light and transmuted for the highest good of all concerned.  We see ourselves in the flow of energy radiating from the center of the universe, through the galaxies, through the Milky Way, through the solar system, through the outer energy fields of planet earth, through the top of our heads, through our feet and to the center of the earth, and right now, we invoke a group energy connection while maintaining the sovereign integrity of our souls and we invite those sources that are positive, service to others, honoring the Law of One, to join with us.  We create a protected space that only the positive has access to and anything not of that nature must leave now.  We wait for our sources to introduce themselves.


Ra’An:  We greet you in the love light of the One Infinite Creator.  This is March 7th, 2012.  We are aware of the change in energy over the last day over the planet with the heightened energy coming to the planet from the Sun.  This energy can be used to quicken healing, to bring connection with the energies of the Sun.


Do you have questions tonight?


Wynn:  We do.  I just want to make one side comment:  Daphne, if you stay on the line I’ll check with you somewhere in the middle to see if you feel up to answering a question, okay?  Just mentioning that.


This is from Diana in Boca Raton, Florida.  This is a great question:


The universe provides us guidance in making decisions and choices.  How do we differentiate between the subtle messages of guidance and our brains telling us what we want to hear?  How do we identify guidance from higher sources versus thinking or willing our things that we want?  I am at a life fork and I am working to determine my direction.  How do I best leave it to the Universe to show me what to do and to help me in my path?


Great question.


Ra’An:  Thank you.  We start from the beginning of your question.  When an individual connects with the higher realms, they connect with a soul source and the soul source has a soul energy with the Elohim group, us, we have a soul energy that is extremely high in frequency with other energies, they have their own soul source energy.  One can learn to identify the energy; Ra has its own soul source energy that is the group comes through as a lower frequency as it has mixtures of energies that they have picked up from their life in the third density.


We, the Elohim, do not have the lower frequencies as we have not lived in the lower realms enough to pick up those low energies of the lower realm.  Each group or entity has its own mixture of frequencies that they have grounded within their passage in the physical universe.  Spirit from outside the realm, has no footprint.


So one can identify what they are connecting with by recognizing the frequency.  It is much as your dial on the radio has 640 labeled on it, or 780.  When we connect, we are apparent which you can get to recognize the soul frequency.  It comes across as the unique frequency that one, by using the extra-sensory muscles surrounding, and a part of them, which they reach out to other things in the universe with – by using these perceptions to sense the energy and know that it is true and correct and is resonating.


If the signal, the thought, is coming from oneself, one can determine that if has a location within one’s greater aura.  One can learn to observe and be sensitive to the location of the thought, as a thought comes into the manifest realm, it resonates the area around it and one can see if it is coming from one’s own matrix what area within their greater expanded aura that it is coming from.  When thoughts are coming from one’s own self, they are to be observed but not to be taken as truth, as there are more than one source within one’s own matrix of thoughts.  They may be brought forth from a past experience or from a future experience or from a concentrated energy of one’s path through one’s life that is played back to them.


It could be also a circuit; a circuit can be set up by something a parent has said in the past:  “You’d lose your head if it wasn’t attached” might be such a circuit that one’s mother may have said.  Then, in a similar circumstance, they hear the voice, and these are circuitries that are set up and played according to the circumstances.  Both these can be observed but not taken as literal.  So many thoughts that one has in their expanded matrix it does well to not take them literally as they are playbacks; as they are a gleaning of something that has been brought in from another source, that is not even necessarily true.  There can be circuitry from past lives brought in that is not correct. 


One of the things that tends to play are terms, concepts and opposite concepts--so that one can be buffeted around by such things.  If one thinks “I’m going to create a beautiful painting” then the opposite may come blasting through the mind, “I’m going to destroy a beautiful painting.”  Then, the person is stymied; it’s like “I must not be a very good person to have that coming up” but, it does not reflect upon your worth at all.  It is something that is wafting through your mind; it may be something from the past, it may be something that the neighbor across the street keeps yelling at the wall and it’s permeating the neighborhood.  It may be something that a neighbor, or someone that lived in your house in the past, was yelling to the husband and it’s caught in the walls.


So one needs to resonate; if one is going to resonate with one’s thoughts, then they need to observe them and see how true they are for you.  So in determining what path you are going to take, you need to observe and eliminate all of the chaff and isolate out what you really, truly resonate  (with)– what opens your heart?  What delights you?  What makes you feel good?  What makes you feel worthwhile?  Even if you feel it for just a glimmer, an instant – you felt it and it something to build upon.


That is our answer.


Wynn:  Thank you.  I wanted to add just one little technique that I do – that is, when you have to make a decision, to go into a quiet meditative space and one way to help get into that is send the light to people you love.  Just go in that space and surround them.  If you’re doing it right, you should get really peaceful and centered.  Then, put different paths in front of you in there but don’t move out of your centered, neutral space and see what happens to your energy as you expand into the path from that place.  Monitor yourself and you may get sharp enough to say, “When I do, things get clenched and contracted.  When I do this, I can feel a better path.”  If you can do that it might help you make better decisions.


Next question


I was wondering how the Elohim explain homosexuality?  What do they say about it – we’ll say the Elohim and Ra, because Ra might have more experience in that level than the Elohim.  What does the Elohim say about it and how people came to be that way?  Do they really go to hell like many churches, Bible teachers and preachers say?


Thank you.


Ra’An:  Thank you for your question; this is a wonderful question.


We look at individuals as energy bodies, and we as the Elohim do not look into the lower aspects of sexuality with judgment, as we look at it as, “What will expand the person, and what will further the person’s growth with a relationship that is sacred.


How did someone get to be homosexual?  They may have had a successful life, a past life as a member of the opposite sex and then be born into the new – like, if they were a male they might be born into female and may have been really comfortable with being a male.  But, as the female they do not have the comfort and they may seek to take refuge in their earlier role.


There are more genders than one can be aware of in general, as there are many individuals born with elements in their body of either both sex or a – we do not know the words here; the channel does not know the words – transgender that the doctors at birth may have changed some of the appendages when there one too many or there is a change that would bring the baby into life as one or the other, instead of having elements of both.  This happens more than is talked about.  This, then, in the individual as they grow may affect their relationships and their growth.


Another example:  one may have had a difficult relationship with one parent, and so moved toward having a relationship, a successful relationship, with the other parent who may have been the same sex. 


There are many different reasons for this as individuals seek to work through their issues.  One may be rebelling authority of the society dictating a man and a woman relationship, and they may express their rebellion to authority by having the same-sex partner.  There are different roots to get to be expressing oneself as a homosexual.


Those are our comments.


Wynn:  Thank you. 


Next question.  We have a question from Isis, and it has to do. It has to do with the nature of which all our past lives are present in this moment.  She brought up the interesting phenomena, where at one point Daphne channeled what was identified as the soul fragment of Nefertiti.  Isis wanted to understand this process, and what is it like?  Do we actually integrate all our past lives into the present?


Here is the exact question:


Are we living different lifetimes at the same time?  And, if so when we overcome karma or certain patterns, do all the lifetimes simultaneously uplift benefit or just the particular one where this took place?  Is this why Daphne was channeling Nefertiti?  Is it a soul fragment of Nefertiti?  If the focus of the soul was distributed throughout the various sectors of the galaxy – maybe galaxy is not the right word there; maybe various sectors of the dimensions are held somewhere interdimensionally, not in a physical space in the galaxy but in an interdimensional space.


Ra’An:  Thank you.  Give us a moment.


The point of presence is in the now; therefore everything is created in the now.  Life is the solidarity of the illusion, and in the now it is created and all of the past lives are created and re-created, but the point of presence is in the now, like a snapshot that occurs and another snapshot – and that occurs.  And, the recreation of the first snapshot is there, occurring.  Therefore, when one attempts to look at a past life and one looks at it accepting that is past and gone by - what they are really seeing is the recreation of that past life in the now.  Therefore, it has a point of presence impact upon them in the now.


An individual is present in the now and is creating their future at the same time.  If they are headed within this creation of pictures – flick, flick, flick, flick – towards resentment, say, at a family member who has treated them harshly and they are locked up in their emotions, frozen in their emotions because they have not been allowed to expand and to express themselves and to come out and flow and open their heart, but have been shoved back into a contraction and feel they have been treated unjustly and they are frozen, then they carry that – flick, flick, flick, flick – picture to picture, they carry that into their future.


This lock-up of flow does not allow their body; it locks up the chemicals of their body.  Their body can’t release proper chemicals and they then cannot get the proper flow of the lymph and they have stuck points.  They can then, very well, get cancer.  Then, this is part of the future that is laid in – flick, flick, flick, flick – one can change their future; one is not destined to have the same future if they really wish to change it, they can change it.  As there is free will.  However, if they do not move to change it, then one can see what their future will be, as it progresses and it is laid out in a series of projections in this illusion of all that is.


We have given you some clues here.


You have asked about soul stream, and about, in particularly, Nefertiti.


We leave the Nefertiti case aside, as we do not wish to move into this soul stream’s personal business.  However, each person is a part of a soul stream.  There can be fragments that join; we do not even wish to call them fragments, but other entities that borrow the stream of energy and move in to move along and learn from the flow of energy with the major soul stream and such entities can grow and learn and leave.  Such entities can express addiction or can express other aberrations or other difficulties that affect the soul stream.  Therefore, when one is experiencing something they need to observe and see exactly what the components are.


Those are our answers.


Wynn:  Thank you.  A question from Michael Franco in Toronto.


What is the method Jesus healed?  For instance, did he go up to a high vibration within and become one with all that is and then face the person and act as a bridge to be his consciousness between divine infinite and the finite person before him?  I have read Jesus.  His method has been lost or hidden; but, I know nothing is hidden.  All is simply vibration and resides in different frequencies.  Please share the frequency as so many are open and asking.


Ra’An:  Please share the frequency… what?


Wynn:  Could you please share the frequency, as so many are open and asking.


Ra’An:  Thank you.  This is a wonderful question.


As Jesus was one with the Trinity; and as such, Jesus was not linearly making things a part of his own matrix and then confronting the person with it.  Jesus was non-linearly being the Christ Consciousness, the larger All That Is Father, and the son which was himself.  As such, he had multiple focal points which are and were brought to bear upon the individual that was being confronted.


So, if you move out of the sphere of Jesus himself into non-linearly being the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost, then you have a whole multidimensional look at how Jesus could not only translate for the individual, but be the individual, and, as such, know all about him and his own matrix, and bring him into the greater vestige of All That Is, and therefore also bring help to him from whatever vantage point was available, or had the wherewithal to bring help to the individual.


Wynn:   Thank you.  Finally, we’re just about to finish.    We have some people for healing.


We’d like to put Louis Cimono who has a heart condition and is going into the hospital. 


Then we have here Mary Jones – she’s putting her husband in the light – Charlie Jones for his back issues; her son Sean for helping dealing with his unwed teenage daughter who has a 10-month old child and her granddaughter Leaha Dawson so she makes better decisions in her life.  Eileen Oradell in northern New Jersey (I think that’s the city) – doctors have suggested surgery for removal for a benign tumor which could mean she could lose her hearing – let’s just put that into the light.  She’d love to have a miracle of healing on that if possible.


Tracy in West Virginia had a great question and we’re going to leave it for next week.  The answer to your question though Tracy is yes – everything we’ve ever done or asked about humans have a huge part in the interfacing with the planet and causing destructive energies to occur from the planet and even in the Solar System.  The energy of humans is very much tied to the energy of the planet and very much it impacts both positive and negative things that happen as a result.


Those are all our healing requests.  Do you have any comments on the healing requests before we go?


Ra’An:  What is the name of the person with the benign tumor?


Wynn:  That is Eileen in northern New Jersey.


Ra’An:  There is an issue with flow of energy through your body and we suggest some support for the kidneys, for the kidney area.  There is – if you go to you can find out more about Dr. Bob Marshall’s program on nutrition and you could call at some point and get on one of his broadcasts and ask him a question concerning what would be good to support your hearing?


Wynn:  Just letting you all know we don’t get any kick-backs from Dr. Marshall.


On that note, we’re just going to close.  I thank everybody for their questions.  I’m sending everybody loads of love.  In the upcoming days, take time to bring spirit into your life and make the connections.


Thank you everyone who has been volunteering to help us.  On that note, we’ll stop the recording.



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