Monday Calls; 2013 Conferences
Wynn: This is April 29, 2013. Wynn Free in Sedona,Terry Brown in Sedona, and Daphne Karandanis is in Half Moon Bay. This is our Monday night call. We pick topics.
And somebody sent me an email a couple of days ago, they asked me: ďWhat do you mean by Ďcatalyzationí?Ē I use that word somewhat often; I do have a process about what it means; I think itís important. I thought it might be helpful for all of you to understand what I mean by Ďcatalyzationí.
Before I go into that, I thought Iíd open the lines. We are un-muted. Does anyone want to put their foot in their mouth, or share something with us?
Ron: What was the root word again?
Wynn: The word is Ďcatalyzationí; Ďcatalystí.
Don: I think it would mean something that either instigates or enables change.
Wynn: Is that Don? Okay Don, thank you. Anyone else? Terry, are you there?
Terry: Iím here; Iím here.
Wynn: What does the word Ďcatalyzationí mean to you?
Terry: It means you upset the other person, and hopefully they will get an idea how they can grow from it.
Wynn: What was the first thing you said? I missed the word Ė you do what to the other person?
Terry: You upset the other person.
Wynn: You upset the other person, okay.
Caller: Itís magically changing a horse into a cowÖ
Wynn: Changing a horse into a cow? I have an idea about that.
Caller: Letís change a lump of coal to a diamond instead.
Wynn: Okay; who is that? Daphne, are you there? You can tell me not to call on you, if you want, but I thought it would be good to have you express your idea for the word Ďcatalyzationí.
Daphne: Are we speaking about what the word means, are we speaking about the contextual context?
Catalyzation has to do with a dissonance of frequency; catalyzation has to do with a dissonance of frequencies. Thereís a saying about Ďgrist for the millí; karmic grist for the mill. It has to do with the introduction of elements into the realm of experience whichÖ
Wynn: Öintroduction of what into the realm of experience? I missed a word.
Daphne: The introduction of forces into the realm of experience which makes things move; they make things move either one way or another way. Youíve heard of the term Ďcatalytic convertorí; theyíre used in cars, or they used to be used in cars a long time ago, but catalyzing oneís experience means introducing elements, circumstances, vibrational arenas, which are dissonant; which are at un-harmony with the place that a person is experiencing or used to experiencing; thereby it is forcing change.
Change is not necessarily growth; the person can be negatively catalyzed. Not all catalyzation is positive; not all catalyzation is growthful. In fact, Yogananda always said that environment is stronger than willpower. One must choose oneís environment very carefully. You want to keep as clear a vibrational space around yourself as possible at all times, because human nature being what it will, people will tend to resonate at the lower common denominator.
Wynn: Okay, thank you. Iím going to un-mute everybody again. Does anyone else want to say something?
Hereís a good question to those of you who have been coming into these calls over a period of time, have you felt that the word Ďcatalyzationí would relate to an experience youíve had while coming into these calls, or provoked by the calls? Letís see if anyone wants to answer that.
Marilyn: Can I say something? The word Ďcatalyzationí to me is very harsh; I would not say that anything that Iíve experienced with this group or through Wynn has been harsh. Itís all been an easy flow.
Wynn: Okay. I donít think catalyzation necessarily has to be harsh, but whatís the word/idea when you talk about language that is representative: semantics? People relate that-[harsh]-to the word[catalyzation].
Does anyone else want to make a comment on that comment that I made about catalyzation on the call or in your life as a result of the call?
Gijs: Itís kind of hard to answer that question not really knowing what catalyzation means.
Joel: I think for myself reading The Creator Gods of the Universe was one of those things that was the catalyst which helped draw things in and make it more understandable with regards from a process of already going through The Law of One (books one through five) and then reading that. It was a catalyst in order to drive the energy in a positive direction in this realm.
Wynn: Thank you Joel. Youíre kind of fading out but I think we got what you said.
Let me go into talking about my idea of that word and how it applies, then maybe open it up for discussion again and then see what you all think; if it looks different.
Every one of us thinks that who we are right now is who we are. It feels like how it feels to be you; youíre inside your body. You have the experience of your emotions. You have your experience of your friends if you have any. You have the experience of your neighborhood. Each of us is in a reality system. Yet, every one of us has a different reality system. In spite of the fact that weíre all on these calls, weíre all listening to these words, we all have different reality systems.
Sometimes those of us that are on this call start to talk to each other and you think ďWow! Iím really going to get understanding.Ē You suddenly find that person doesnít understand you at all, or you donít understand them at all. Thatís not always the case, but it can very likely be the case, because even though weíre on this call, every one of us has a different reality system.
I would say that all reality systems are not equal; that reality systems tap into this greater hologram. So, each of us is expanded into the hologram of the Universe at a different level of expansion. So we canít see that, but when you start talking to someone if youíre at a higher level of expansion into the UniverseÖ Ė higher doesnít mean Ďbetterí, it doesnít mean controlling; it just means maybe youíve had more lifetimes in this realm; it means maybe you came from an angelic place. If youíre at a higher place of expansion into the Universe and if youíre talking to somebody at a more contracted level of expansion, then theyíre not going to understand you. They canít understand you at their level of contraction.
Either one of the following has to happen: you have to contract so you can match them so that communication is possible, or they have to expand so that they can match you so that communication is possible. Now, the first one itís always possible to do; itís always possible for a person at a higher level of expansion to contract to a person at a more contracted space. Itís not always possible for a person whoís more contracted to expand into the space of a higher expansion, because they donít know how to do that.
The way Iím looking at it the person at the higher expansion has been there and done that; they have experienced the other personís way of being in another lifetime or a past lifetime or this lifetime. Nonetheless, itís part of their experience. But the person at the smaller level of contraction may not have experienced the person at the larger contraction. They actually may have experienced it in another lifetime and then theyíve contracted again.
If thatís the case (if they had an experience) then itís fairly easy for the person at the larger expansion to trigger the other person into a large expansion, because the person already has it: the cellular memory. But if they havenít experienced it, itís very difficult. That is when this principle of Ďcatalyzationí comes in, and can actually come in in both situations.
There is actually the third possibility: itís impossible to connect, and people walk away and they say ďThis isnít gonna workĒ, because the guy at the higher level of expansion Ė the person Ė when he contracts to the other person, he can do it, but he feels like heís not being authentic and it gets boring very quickly. The person at the contracted space tries to expand and they canít do it and they feel misunderstood. So, the people decide to walk away.
How does that relate to this work? In this work, I have this idea that we are learning to connect with these energies of Source, of Elohim, of Ra that are extremely expanded in the Universe. And, almost none of us are really ready for that level of expansion. What happens is: when itís presented to you (or to someone) thereís immediately a similar kind of dance that goes on just as when a person at a larger level of expansion starts to communicate with a person at a smaller level of expansion.
Weíre the guys with the smaller level of expansion and theyíre the ones with the larger expansion. In order for communication to occur on some level they have to come to our level, but they canít stay here because it gets boring. And theyíre not interested in doing this; we have to go to their level; in which case we canít stay there or weíd leave the body.
So, we have a series of meetings and coming and going, where slowly but surely, with the reinforcement of it, we learn to expand into a larger frame of reality. Thatís my idea of it. So, on these calls, in the reiteration of calls, there is that opportunity to expand. Not everybody wants to expand; not everybody knows that expansion is possible. Theyíll come into the call and keep trying to fit the call and what happens here into a contracted matrix. It doesnít seem to fit; and they can get upset.
In order to expand into a higher matrix, we have to let something go. If we donít let it go, we canít expand. What do we have to let go? For everybody itís something different. The process of letting go of something, it can be painful; it can be hurtful. I would call that Ďcatalyzationí; thatís one kind of catalyzation: catalyzation of letting go of something youíre attached to that has been part of your reality system for many years and perhaps many lifetimes.
All of this doesnít happen at a conscious level; in other words, you canít consciously say to yourself ďIím going to let go of thisĒ because that doesnít work. It happens below the level of consciousness, and it happens or it doesnít happen.
Years ago, I read a book which I canít remember the name of. The fellow that wrote the book (whom I also canít remember) was talking about ĎThe Dark Night of the Soulí. He was talking about the Christ-consciousness. From his point of view, he was saying ďNo one will go through the catalyzation required to get to the Christ-consciousness unless their back is against a wallĒ. Because to move through where you are to the Christ consciousnessÖ-- we could say: experientially, the Law of One could be the Christ-consciousness; experientially, being able to see everyone as part of yourself; experientially experiencing you are your brotherís keeper and that you are not just your body.
Those are ideas, but how do you experience that? How do you move into the experience of that? Moving into the experience of that is letting go of the things that are in the way; letting go of the contraction. Mystical Catholicism has a word for that letting go (at least this is how I interpret it) and calls it ďThe Dark Night of the SoulĒ; going through the dark night of the soul. When things start to catalyze, they come up in you as feelings that are uncomfortable; it comes up as pain. When you read people who talk about this, they would say that the pain comes up and you have to experience that pain in order to release it.
So, if you have things in your track, in your past lives, in this life that have crystallized certain kinds of painful traumas, fears, (relationships with women in a certain way), if itís crystallized that, then on some level if youíre going to move from a more contracted space to a more expanded space and even hopefully into the Christed energies, then you have to travel through all those things that have createdÖ Ė the word our sources use is Ďmiasmsí or little Ďenergy crunchesí where something is tied up in knots in you and you donít even know itís tied up in knots because youíve lived with it all your life. So, it feels like thatís you.
I know when I was young, I had that very specific experience because I grew up with a father that was very oppressive. I had learned at one point that he had killed me in another life and that he was not that happy to see me this life. But because he killed me I had the option (it wasnít his choice apparently) to take a life through this family because he had a karmic debt; that I could play the card and I would be born through this family. I had reasons to want to be born through this family.
I donít think on the other side I understood how painful it was going to be for me. It was as if he was still killing me as I was growing up. He didnít kill me physically, but he killed me psychically; he made me feel worthless. He made me feel like I had to defend myself. My shoulders got incredibly tight; my chest got incredibly tight. I didnít know that was because of him. I thought thatís how it felt to be me. I walked around feeling all those feelings for quite a few years.
When I had this reading where I learned that he had killed me (and I was sure the reading was right; there were other collaborating things) it made sense. It started to put me on this process of forgiving my father, forgiving everything, and also realizing that I had chosen to come in through this family even though it was going to be painful. For whatever reason, I wanted to be born in the location; something that this family could provide me.
But then because I made that choice (this is me reviewing it and looking back on it) then I found out the reason for it, it still took me quite a bit of years, at least a few years, to release the energy inside of myself. I think I could do it a lot faster now because Iím wiser now; at that time I wasnít. I had to surface this rejection over and over again inside myself. Every time it would come up I would have to look at it and say ďThatís not me; thatís the pattern my father put into me.Ē He didnít even do it intentionally; this is all written in karmic energy-fields.
I think this is my take, some people might not look at it this way, it was like I chose to come through that family was going to cause me certain grief. If I chose a different family, that grief wouldnít be there, but I had a reason to choose this particular family. So, this releasing of all of this hurt for me was a constant catalyzation for a couple of years.
That doesnít mean you need to have that kind of catalyzation, but when uncomfortable things come up itís a good thing to run it by your mind to say ďIs this something thatís catalyzing me or is this something I should run away from?Ē Itís not easy to tell the difference. Oftentimes when something is triggering an old pattern in you and your relationships are the best example of this. Whomever youíre in a relationship with is a master at triggering your patterns and vice-versa. When they trigger your patterns, it always looks like theyíre doing it to you; theyíre causing that to happen.
I suspect many of you have had that experience, where somebody was doing something to you and maybe you had to get away and you left them. You brought another person in that did the same thing, and then you brought another person in that did the same thing. Of course, thatís a sign that itís a pattern thatís trying to work through in you. So, if youíre in a relationship and thatís happening, can you turn it around and look at it and say ďWhatís the pattern that Iím supposed to work through with regards to this relationship?Ē
So, that is the value of understanding catalyzation: the value of facing situations that can be painful and that are part of processing that can release through you. I thought Iíd give Terry and Daphne a chance to share their experiences with this. I know that Daphne talks about this a lot, sheíll use the word Ďprocessingí. To me, Ďprocessingí means releasing stuff. Itís amazing how much it would seem as if you could just go *click*; okay Ė gone! Yet, it is gone for a moment; you have that moment of clarity, you have that moment of peace. And you say ďWow! This feels really good.Ē Before you know it, the next day or the day after, itís come back again.
Let me start out with Terry, if she wants to share anything on this idea of catalyzation that I just talked about.
Terry: One of the things that I notice is when Iíll be right up against my limitations and I canít see my way through it, then it gets really hard. Then, oftentimes Iíll make a break-through later and then things will get easier than they were before.
Thatís my experience of it. It can be something that life throws up at you or me; or it can be somebody trying to get something across. Then my old patterns come up and I misunderstand what theyíre saying. Like instead of realizing that theyíre saying ďHey, communicate; youíre in the middle of somethingĒ I think that theyíre saying ďWork harder! Work harder! Get more done.Ē So I donít say anything.
Wynn: Youíre not talking about me; are you talking about me when you say that? Should I talk to that person?
Wynn: Okay, Iím just checking. Okay, go ahead.
Terry: Yes, well thatís about it.
My parents, they brought me right up against my limitations. I had to kind of go outside of my limitations to be able to respond to life with them.
Wynn: Right. If you notice, one of the great things about these calls is this quality of transparency, where weíre really not teaching anybody anything; weíre learning as we go. Everyone is just being who they are. It kind of sets an example that you can be who you are, because you can.
You canít be who you are everywhere, because in the real world you have to look like something. You have to have an image that you project. Of course, people donít ever want to see your pain or your suffering because if they did no one would like you. You have to hold that in and keep a good image going.
What happens is, thatís why people get stuck and they donít grow. The way the world works is: you canít release things, you have to look good, or at least try to look good. The strange phenomenon about it is that almost everybody can see through everybody. But itís not polite to notice. So, weíre busy looking good and other people can see through us.
I get emails from people and they say ďWynn, we could feel you were tiredĒ or, ďYou were grumpy that day.Ē You know, I canít hide; Iím on these calls and whoever I am is here. There are days that I still endure; I think/I hope I do an okay job, but I am tired, or I resist coming into three calls a week. Yet I know how important this is; so, I do it.
Daphne, are you there?
Gijs: No, she dropped out, Wynn.
Wynn: She dropped out; alright. I was hoping she would be sharing for this because this is a good topic for her.
Let me open it up and see if anyone else wants to share some of their experience with this idea; if they relate to it, if they understand it, if they had an experience where they went through a lot of negative stuff inside themselves and they got to the other side of it. Or, do you have the experience of going through stuff and think youíre a victim of someone else? Iím just curious what you think; the lines are open.
Lisa: Hi, itís Lisa. I was wondering if the book you were talking about before is Care of the Soul by Thomas Moore. You were trying to remember the name of a book; you were talking about ĎThe Dark Night of the Soulí. I remember reading Thomas Moore, and he talked about the dark night of the soul. The title of the book is Care of the Soul.
Wynn: Thatís not the book. It was actually a very good book; in the book the guy was actually talking as if he were Jesus looking at the world today. It was almost as if he was channeling or he was mocking it up. But it was full of wisdom. I canít remember. It might come up because I do have it somewhere in my data bank; Iím not sure where it is, I canít remember. In any case, it wasnít the dark night of the soul. There are a lot of books out on the dark night of the soul.
Iíll give you an example: When I first got into all of this Ė when I say Ďfirstí I mean when I first discovered David Wilcock and when I first had a reading from David Wilcock, which I did. I wanted to check out how his sources resonated with me. I remembered they said to me there would be times I would Ė see, Iím going to admit this to you all Ė there would be times when I would look in the mirror and I would look like Frankenstein. I understood what they were saying because in order to do this I had to release so many things. I think one time with Daphne they said I was going through releasing the karma of twenty-seven lifetimes. I donít know what they all are, but nonetheless I kind of understood it. Itís been a work in progress for me to be able to hold the energy of this. I could never in my wildest dreams imagine that I could do this.
But there were times when I looked like Frankenstein. Even today I tell some people sometimes I get up and there are things Iím working through my system, and Iíd rather not go outside because I hope nobody sees me. Then there are other times when I look absolutely great. Some of you know those patterns. How do you cope with them? I cope; on days when Iím not looking good I just stay at home. The problem is: Iím doing three conference calls a week, so I canít hide from you guys. Weíre all in a processing together and itís okay because it speeds up the process. It allows us to be who we are and release things.
Thank you, Lisa. Does anyone else want to share anything on this? Have any of you had the experience of understanding what I mean by Ďprocessingí?
Wynn: Probably? Who is that? Lisa. Youíre the only one who is talkative tonight.
Lisa: Letís see. It has to do with my health situation. Because of my physical health situation I ended up going into a very deep depression when I didnít know what depression was; I had no understanding that it was a medical condition. For seven years I just sort of walked around thinkingÖ Ė later on I thought of myself as having walked around having a dignified nervous breakdown because nobody on the outside of me ever saw anything strange. I had one moment with one friend. He said ďGee, youíre so cold, unusally cold and distant. Ē I couldnít help him; I couldnít help myself in the moment. In fact, that was it. Inside the dark night of the soul is just something that I really came to understand.
So for seven years I walked around just thinking that I was failing at life and not telling anybody. It finally came out with a doctor he said ďDo you think youíre depressed?Ē I was still hearing the word Ďdepressedí in some laymanís terms. I said ďHow ridiculous. Of course Iím depressed.Ē The horrors that I was going through in my mind I would have never guessed that I would go through. My plan was to be a very together person from the time I was growing up.
Finally I found out there was a medical cause. What it meant is that I was deficient in certain hormones and I needed just to replace them. I finally got on medication and on the right dose. It turned out I started normalizing and having the understanding that it was not me that was failing; there was something missing inside of my body. I would stay with the thousands of thoughts and racing thoughts and suddenly being afraid to be alone when before I always could be alone. All these things that I went through gave me so much insight to life, so much. I feel like I made a journey that I had to make where I lost faith in just about everything. I just totally lost faith only to finally build it back.
Obviously, I could write a book about it but I wonít take the rest of the time here. It was very meaningful to me.
Wynn: Thank you so much for sharing.
One thing I would like to say about this idea of catalyzation is that if I have my understanding correctly, at no time in the history of mankind has there been the potential for working through things faster than right now. That is, you can move through the fear of letting things come up. If you can move through it, youíll move through it faster now just because you create that intention. Thatís because of this shift; itís faster than any time in the history of all your lifetimes here, actually, if I understand it correctly.
The key is that it may not happen by itself without you making the serious commitment to work it through, and the serious commitment to start looking for the God, the Creator, in everyone, as Ra would say it. I think what Iíd like to do is call in the light. Are you there, Terry?
Terry: Iím here, yes. Iím here.
Wynn: Could we bring in a little short message on this topic?
Terry: Just a minute. Go ahead.
Wynn: Father/Mother God, we ask for the presence of the Light to surround and protect Terry, myself and each person on this line and any negativity be taken to the highest realms of Light and transmuted for the highest good of all concerned. We see ourselves in the flow of energy radiating from the center of the Universe, through the galaxies, through the Milky Way, through the Solar System, through the outer energy fields of Planet Earth, through our bodies and into the center of the Earth. Right now, we invoke a group energy connection while maintaining the sovereign integrity of our souls. We invite those Sources that are positive, service-to-others, honoring the Law of One to join with us and we create a protected space that only the Positive has access to. Anything not of that nature must leave now.
While we have this moment of together (communion) I just want to send this energy particularly to Los Angeles; surrounding Los Angeles in a protected shield of energy and loving energy coming to the surface of that city. Iíd like to send the same thing to the entire planet, but focused on Los Angeles. Iíd also like to send it to Carla Rueckert in the hospital right now, and all those people on our line who are having issues theyíre working through, health issues or any kind of issue.
Iíll turn it over to our Sources to comment on the topic of tonight.
RaíAn: Thank you. We look at this question. We greet you in the Love Light of the One Infinite Creator. This is RaíAn and we are with you this day in April, the 29th of April, 2013.
And we look at the information you have posed. And we look at the derivation of the word Ďcatalyticí and we see that it is a Ďcatalystí: something that can quicken a reaction; can quicken a change. We see that life often acts as a catalyst towards change. If one is headed in the wrong direction, life quickly lets you know that you cannot go in that direction. There is a joke that the drivers on the road tend to be the ones that have learned the lessons of the road. And if they donít learn the lessons of the road they get eliminated pretty quickly and are no longer in the driverís pool.
That is a quick look at how life can teach you lessons. What is it that allows you to live harmoniously and to survive? It is a knowledge of how to harmoniously use the resources around you and to get along with other people so that your life, which is connected with all those around you, and they contribute and you contribute to them so that your life is a lesson in how to move forward and how to grow.
Wynn: Thank you.
By the way, if youíre listening to this and you didnít listen to this Sundayís grid healing, I highly recommend that you go to www.thespiritchannel.net and download it and listen to it. Itís kind of a good one to keep on record. I got a number of emails saying that the energy was extremely good on that call. I think it was, but I donít trust my own decision-making on that. When I get a bunch of people emailing me I think itís probably true.
You know one of the ways to turbo-thrust through your lower energies is to absorb the energies of a call like Sunday, play it often. It does not mean it takes the place of living your life; youíre here to experience this life. Youíre here to experience things; to experience people, to experience intimacy if thatís part of your path.
The lifting of vibration into the space of the Sunday calls (the Sunday calls in particular which are emphasizing that) are a really valuable tool, really valuable. Many times people put out meditation tapes and all kinds of stuff that donít even begin to touch the frequency that we bring in on our Sunday call. Just as we give it away for free doesnít mean itís not valuable; itís extremely valuable.
We give it away for free because this work is so important to people. They donít know that itís important; they kind of have to discover it by going inside of it. Iím not going to stop anyone from that discovery, not because we donít Ďmoneyí because we do. Sooner or later weíll run another blast on our pendants so you can remember Motherís Day gifts and gifts for everybody, weíll do it before Motherís Day. When you do that it really helps us; think of somebody to give a present to. Some day Iím going to have Ďintelligent-infinityí printed on the back of the pendants.
In any case, I thank you all so much for being here, for making this real, for letting us touch you. I thank Terry for being such a trouper and Daphne for being there at the beginning and starting everything. And all the people that are volunteering; and by the way, we need some more transcribers. If you are a transcriber send me an email. Let me know; we have a three-stage process. So you donít have to be perfect because we do have a final editing process by somebody who is really good at English. But let me know if you happen to be really good at English. Let me know how many hours a week you have to spend. If youíre somebody thatís retired or happens to be bed-ridden this is a great way to create great value for people without having to leave your house.
As of this afternoon, we had 24,000 hits on thespiritchannel.net, so people most definitely using it. Itís like a free university from the higher realms; we have hundreds of our calls on that due to the volunteer efforts of a number of people. So, I thank everybody who is volunteering; I thank Gary and Bogdan who are helping send the emails out. I thank all of you for paying attention and making it real.
Itís 6:57; Iíve got you un-muted. Weíll see you next time!
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